TDAbleton - TouchDesigner Ableton Connection

@puck: Thanks for sharing your work! I’ll check them out when I have a chance.

@tolchxxx: Yes, Ableton (actually Max) did have some issues with MIDI at one point in development. I’m not 100% sure which version that problem was in. This may or may not have to do with your problem.

What definitely will affect what you’re trying to do is that EVERY COMPUTER that receives MIDI information needs to have its own TDA_MIDI device. That’s just the nature of the beast because each device only sends to one OSC address.

I understand, I will try with more recent versions of max and ableton to see if it is solved.

With respect to connecting TD Ableton to more than 1 computer.
I see that the Touchdesigner project needs an Ip (Abletonpackage / tdableton), from the computer running Ableton. (Ableton Address: the IP address of the computer running Ableton Live. Also accepts “localhost”.)

In case you have 2 computers running Ableton, each with its own ip.
How can I assign the second ip, inside tdableton in touchdesiger?

double tdAbleton?

The 3 computers (1 Windows with touchdesigenr, 2 macs with ableton), connect by means of a router, through wifi.

Thank you


You have to create another tdAbleton, yes, with a different global shortcut. Then you have to change the TDAbleton Comp parameter of all the abletonComponents that you want to watch that new master’s connection.

Here is a package that is set up to work as a second connection
tdAbletonPackage2.tox (73.7 KB)

thank you very much I’ll try it.
in the case that one of the computers does not have a ableton suite, to run max for live, would it need a physical interface, which would send mid tdableton to the other computers without the ableton suite?

I know there are virtual midi programs, which I use successfully on my computer.

if they are connected in the same network, it is possible to configure midi out touchdesigner with this soft, and ableton live midi in. to receive midi data by network?

I leave one example:

Thank you

I’m not sure of the details of that, but what you describe sounds possible.

TDAbleton interacts with Ableton Live, not Max directly!

What Max For Live was for the plugins that need to be incorporated into Ableton, like the tda midi.

Thank you

System requirements are in the wiki and at the top of this post

Hello good day, I have a query.
when the midi notes of touchdesigner are sent to ableton, for some reason these can not be written on the piano if I start recording the midi channel. as the image shows.
I’m using the abletonMIDI1 component of TDAbleton.

The idea is to be able to send midi pulses, and have these recorded on the piano.

Thank you.

abletonMIDI sends MIDI directly into the track chain. It basically appears wherever the TDA_MIDI device is, which is after the point where it would be recorded from an external source.

In order to record the signal, you can send the MIDI from the receiving track into a different MIDI track and record it. If you don’t know how to do this in Live, please start a new support thread with the question and I’ll go into detail.

@Ivan Is there a way to do some math to convert that osc data that is incoming from the new TDA_Audio_Analyzer max patch to look like incoming audio data like you would expect from a audiofileIN chop or audiodeviceIN chop?

The audio analyzer is sending level data, so it is really nothing like audio file in data, which is actual wave forms

Documentation coming soon!.

Gracias, me funciono enviando la señal midi desde el canal A, al canal B.

Latest TDAbleton 1.9.0 is posted here and provided in the current official builds (20k +).

Notable new features are documented here:

I tried to be brief with the documentation so please post any questions or clarifications you need!

Uploaded 1.10.0 - wiki coming soon

-abletonRack upgrades including:

  • OSC connection directly in and out of M4L
  • smoother, lower latency messaging
  • CHOP input for fastest possible parameter control

-autofix option for duplicate name problems

Hi Ivan,

First, thanks for such an amazing bridge :slight_smile: !!

Is there support for Ableton 10 yet, or just version 9.7.2 and above?

Have gone through all the same installation processes for Ableton 10 and can’t seem to get a connection. All good if not supported yet, just curious.


I have been working in Ableton 9 to make sure it stays compatible. But Rui Gato and others have been working in 10 and say it works fine. So it’s not a version problem. Have you tested the same exact setup with 9 and it works?

Got it working. Was a bit rusty and forgot to select TouchDesigner from the Midi Control Surface menu. (reminder to slow down and read the instructions :confused: )

Just curious if its possible to control Ableton Track Sends via any of the TDableton components?
Seems the closest thing is Pan control using the AbletonTrack component.

Is it simple to add Send control, or does this require a deep dive into the extension class.

Some more info on my goal - I’m looking to build a multi-channel audio mixer in TD to control sends in Ableton to route audio to a speaker array.

Thanks in advanced for any suggestions

I’m pretty sure you’ll be able to get at it with the abletonValueListener component. Send a screenshot of the exact UI element you want to control and I can be more helpful.

I looked into the abletonValueListener component, and took a look at how its used in the example project. The example project shows the metronome being controlled, and seemingly to do so requires “SONG” to be entered in the Append To LOM Expression field, and “metronome” to be entered in the Property field.

If navigate through the drop downs to select the Send parameter I want to control it shows default LOM and default return addresses above and below the previously described fields. Must I specify what to append or what the property is? The entries I’ve tried haven’t worked.

Thanks in advanced.
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